Philip Pullman parle
Publié : 28 avr. 2002 11:40
Voici un résumé, en anglais et en deux parties, d'un entretien avec l'auteur d'A la croisée des mondes. Interessant :)
Première partie :
Went to a talk entitled Children's Fiction: Dreamworlds and
Nightmares on Thursday night. This was the description in the
brochure:
"Children's fiction has never been so successful and influential.
Film versions of Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings are likely to
become the highest-grossing films ever. Philip Pullman's The Amber
Spyglass was the 2002 Whitbread book of the year, the first book for
children ever to achieve this feat. What cultural needs are these
books meeting? A need to return to narrative and symbol? A deep
rooter nostalgia for childhood? What is their connection to the
crisis of childhood that has haunted the last decade? Speakers
include Philip Pullman, Jenny Turner former arts editor of the
Independent on Sunday and Marina Warner, prize-winning novelist. In
the chair is Antonia Quirke, writer, broadcaster and film critic."
Turner talked about Lord of the Rings and her interpretation of it
as "A symbol of a depressive state" and that its extensive and
extreme removal from the real world is a sign of not just escapism
but a real fear and loathing of the real world. (More on this on
request.ask me off list and I will also try to find a link to the v.
long article she wrote on this.)
Warner gave a potted history of children's literature and how it went
through 3 distinct stages from the Victorians to today: 1) Darwinist
belief that the child is a primitive savage who lives off the raw
material of stories - myths and legends and magic and slowly matures
to civilisation wherein the taste for this kind of thing is lost 2)
the child as an idyllic innocent who requires the fluffy happy stuff
of cleaned up fairy tales with happy endings, simple good/bad,
reward/punishment, stories that protect kids from the world as it is,
prolonging and emphasising their innocence and tell of the world as
it should be, not as it is and 3) the children's literature of today
that tells of the world as it is even if it uses magic and myth to
describe it.
Then. Pullman spoke.
He started writing when he was a teacher and he was required to write
a play for the kids. He was anxious to write something that the
parents coming to see the play could appreciate too as well providing
something for the kids to perform - and wrote Spring-Heeled Jack, now
one of his books. His ability to write for both children and adults
comes from this initial experience and it was as much a practical
decision as an artistic one.
Of using myths and magic in his stories, he said he didn't invent
them himself: "If I see a good story, I'll steal it. That's my
motto."
Of the importance of providing stories for kids, he said they were a
of processing information and understanding causality.
Of the telling of stories, he said that the arrangement of words and
the arrangement of events were equally important. The language
characters in the story spoke in were also important.
Of evil, he said that children who commit crime, who Do Bad Things
are called evil and turned into monsters, vilified beyond redemption
and treated as aliens and out-of-this world because children are
considered incapable of evil; once they do something that is beyond
the sweetness and innocence that we credit them with, they are no
longer even human.
Première partie :
Went to a talk entitled Children's Fiction: Dreamworlds and
Nightmares on Thursday night. This was the description in the
brochure:
"Children's fiction has never been so successful and influential.
Film versions of Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings are likely to
become the highest-grossing films ever. Philip Pullman's The Amber
Spyglass was the 2002 Whitbread book of the year, the first book for
children ever to achieve this feat. What cultural needs are these
books meeting? A need to return to narrative and symbol? A deep
rooter nostalgia for childhood? What is their connection to the
crisis of childhood that has haunted the last decade? Speakers
include Philip Pullman, Jenny Turner former arts editor of the
Independent on Sunday and Marina Warner, prize-winning novelist. In
the chair is Antonia Quirke, writer, broadcaster and film critic."
Turner talked about Lord of the Rings and her interpretation of it
as "A symbol of a depressive state" and that its extensive and
extreme removal from the real world is a sign of not just escapism
but a real fear and loathing of the real world. (More on this on
request.ask me off list and I will also try to find a link to the v.
long article she wrote on this.)
Warner gave a potted history of children's literature and how it went
through 3 distinct stages from the Victorians to today: 1) Darwinist
belief that the child is a primitive savage who lives off the raw
material of stories - myths and legends and magic and slowly matures
to civilisation wherein the taste for this kind of thing is lost 2)
the child as an idyllic innocent who requires the fluffy happy stuff
of cleaned up fairy tales with happy endings, simple good/bad,
reward/punishment, stories that protect kids from the world as it is,
prolonging and emphasising their innocence and tell of the world as
it should be, not as it is and 3) the children's literature of today
that tells of the world as it is even if it uses magic and myth to
describe it.
Then. Pullman spoke.
He started writing when he was a teacher and he was required to write
a play for the kids. He was anxious to write something that the
parents coming to see the play could appreciate too as well providing
something for the kids to perform - and wrote Spring-Heeled Jack, now
one of his books. His ability to write for both children and adults
comes from this initial experience and it was as much a practical
decision as an artistic one.
Of using myths and magic in his stories, he said he didn't invent
them himself: "If I see a good story, I'll steal it. That's my
motto."
Of the importance of providing stories for kids, he said they were a
of processing information and understanding causality.
Of the telling of stories, he said that the arrangement of words and
the arrangement of events were equally important. The language
characters in the story spoke in were also important.
Of evil, he said that children who commit crime, who Do Bad Things
are called evil and turned into monsters, vilified beyond redemption
and treated as aliens and out-of-this world because children are
considered incapable of evil; once they do something that is beyond
the sweetness and innocence that we credit them with, they are no
longer even human.